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My Final Thoughts on the Zimmerman / Martin Case

The following is my OPINION.  It is how I see this case.  You can agree with it or not.  That’s up to you.  As always, I welcome an educated debate, but will not tolerate name calling, nastiness, etc…

OK…here goes…

First, I believe that, at minimum, Zimmerman should have been found guilty of manslaughter, however, a second degree murder conviction would have been more up the alley of what I would push for.

Second,  I do not believe this is a racial thing on Zimmerman’s part.

Third, I do, however, believe that if George Zimmerman were a black man and Trayvon Martin were a white teenager,  Zimmerman would have been charged and convicted of murder and most likely received the death penalty. THAT is why (I believe) it has become a racial thing across America.

Let me clarify all of this…

I think if the burglaries in the neighborhood were being perpetrated by white teenagers and Trayvon was white, Zimmerman would have done the same thing. He profiled Trayvon as a criminal. I don’t know that it was about race.

He kept referring to Trayvon as “the suspect”. Suspected of what? Buying skittles and tea?   Now…some of you might say “Well…he was suspended from school and he had trace amounts of THC in his system and…” None of that matters.  This is about what happened that horrible night, not Trayvon’s past.  Zimmerman knew none of that when he went after Trayvon Martin that night.

I think Zimmerman honestly did think he was going after one of the “fucking punks” who was burglarizing the neighborhood and he thought he would be a hero for catching him. I think things went horribly wrong when he confronted Trayvon because that child fought back.   Some have said that Trayvon should have “just run home”.  Trayvon did not want to lead this “creepy ass cracker” back to his 12 year old brother who was home alone.  He thought George Zimmerman was a pervert who was following him.  He was scared.  A scared 17 year old who had no clue what to do or where to go for help so he stood HIS ground and confronted Zimmerman.

I don’t doubt that Trayvon punched Zimmerman and Zimmerman fell and bumped his head on the concrete.  But…those wounds are NOT wounds from “repeated blows to the sidewalk”.  And, before you ask…YES…I’ve seen a head that’s gotten forcefully smashed only twice into the concrete.  Head wounds bleed.  They bleed A LOT.  From one gash, the amount of blood that comes from a head wound is unlike any other wound I’ve ever seen.  These were more like scratches, just as the medical examiner said.

I think Zimmerman was wrong…oh so wrong and should have been found guilty. But, I’m not convinced it was all about race. I think it was about a self centered jerk who wanted to be a hero.

Unfortunately, the jury apparently wanted the prosecution to give them a neat little story like Zimmerman did. The prosecution wasn’t willing to stand up there and lie like the defense was. They didn’t know exactly what happened, but…regardless…it was perpetrated by Zimmerman. How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not self defense when the victim is dead? It’s a hard case. Had I been on the jury, hearing that those screams stopped as soon as the gunshot rang out, I would have no problem convicting him. But…

Juries expect things to come to them like they do on television… everything wrapped up and delivered to them in a nice little package with a huge bow on it.  It does not happen that way in real life.  When you are making the story up, you can deliver it wrapped up nice and neat.  However, if you’ve ever been in a fight before, you know that you do not remember every single move, every single blow, every single step, every single…  Most people remember the beginning, bits of the middle and maybe the end.   Zimmerman supposedly recalled every tiny little move.  That’s not recall, that’s a story.  And every time he told the story, it got a little worse.  That’s not because he was “remembering” things, it’s because he had a law background and knew what to say to make it appear that Trayvon was more of a threat than he actually was.  George had to make it sound that way.  Otherwise, he knew he would be found guilty of murder.

Unfortunately, most people are unable to separate what they think they have “learned” on crime TV shows like CSI and NCIS, etc… and reality.

I listened to the interview with juror B37.  She sounds like a snob when she says she couldn’t understand Rachel Jeantel.  Rachel Jeantel was REAL.  She didn’t wrap things up and package them nicely.  I listened to this juror reference Zimmerman as “George” and Trayvon as “the kid”.  She also said she thought Zimmerman “got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhood” and “had poor judgement”.  A child is DEAD because of George Zimmerman’s poor judgement!!  It seems even the jurors profiled Trayvon as one of “those assholes” who “always get away”.  Juror B37 hopes George “learned his lesson” and “will be more careful with a gun now”.  WHAT???  Learned what lesson?  Send his ass to jail and he will really learn his lesson!!

A VERY sad case!!

UPDATE – More on Juror B-37 – She says at one point in the interview:

“I feel sorry for Trayvon because of the situation he got put in and I feel sorry for George for the situation he put himself in.”

WOW…even that statement proves that the jurors knew George Zimmerman was guilty, but CHOSE not to “punish” him by finding him guilty.  And then I found out this juror was going to write a book, but she and her publisher decided not to after hearing the backlash from the public.  HELLO???  The trial just got over two days ago.  You decided in two days to write a book, got a publisher, then decided to NOT write a book in all that time???  I don’t think so.  She got herself on that jury somehow.  BOGUS…


Zimmerman Out on Bond

George Zimmerman was released on $150,000 bond at approximately midnight last night.  What are your thoughts on this?

I don’t think there’s really any reason he shouldn’t be allowed bond like any other person.  I am NOT a George Zimmerman supporter.  My thoughts are that he is a liar and a very dishonest person.  So far he has been caught in too many lies.  What lies?  Here is a partial list:

Zimmerman claimed HE was the voice screaming for help on the 911 call.  That was a LIE  – TWO, not one, but TWO independent voice analysts said that the voice screaming for help was NOT GEORGE ZIMMERMAN.

Zimmerman (in his “apology” to Trayvon’s parents) claimed that he did not know Trayvon was a teen.  He claimed he thought Trayvon was “a little younger than me”.  That was a LIE – In the original 911 call, Zimmerman called Trayvon a “teenager” and a “kid” on at least 3 occasions.

Zimmerman claimed his head was being “bashed into the concrete”.  That was a LIE – See post at http://roxannegreen.com/647/george-zimmermans-bloody-head/

Zimmerman claimed that he shot Trayvon because Trayvon Martin was “going for my gun”.  Then, in the “apology” he said “I didn’t know whether he was armed or not”.

Zimmerman told the 911 operator that Trayvon was running away from him.  He then said (VERY CLEARLY) “These assholes. They always get away.”  Then you hear the ding of the vehicle door and the heavy breathing starts where Zimmerman is clearly CHASING Trayvon.

Zimmerman said Trayvon circled back and came after him.  Interesting…Zimmerman was pissed that Trayvon was running away and he began to chase.  Then, he took off after Trayvon.  When the 911 operator asked him if the police should meet him at his truck, it is apparent that George Zimmerman had no intentions of stopping chasing Trayvon because he said “Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at?” IN MY OPINION, he fully intended to go after Trayvon.

You can read my transcript of the 911 call HERE.

I don’t think that Zimmerman’s account is correct.  I don’t think there is any way that Trayvon “circled back” and came after him.  Here’s why.  The 911 call proves that Trayvon was running AWAY from Zimmerman.  NOT toward him. Look at where he was first seen by Zimmerman and where he was found dead.  MAP IT.  The locations are there.  It makes no sense.  Zimmerman got out of his vehicle near 1111 Retreat View Circle, Sanford FL.  (Um, if they come in through the uh gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck.)  Trayvon was found DEAD behind a building at 1231 Twin Trees Lane

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Do I think Zimmerman is guilty?  I think that this was a horrible tragedy.  I think that it was an altercation that went horribly wrong.  What I DO know is that if George Zimmerman had stayed in his darn truck and had not acted like a policeman wannabe, that boy would still be alive.  I think (based on Zimmerman’s lies so far) that he confronted Trayvon and they scuffled.  I think George Zimmerman got scared thinking this could be an armed teen and shot without thinking.  I do not think it was murder, but I do, however, think it was manslaughter.  It’s very sad.  All of the lies he is coming up with now are making him look more guilty.  His lawyers need to keep his mouth shut because every time it opens, more lies spew out.

I am curious to see the records that will hopefully be released to the public in this case.





George Zimmerman Apology

George Zimmerman appeared in court today for his bail hearing.  For some reason, his attorney felt it would be OK for him to take the stand and make a “statement” under oath.

First of all, it’s never a good idea to put your client on the stand.  That opens him or her up to cross examination, not to mention the fact that EVERYTHING they say is “on the record”.

Here is what I got out of that “apology”.  George Zimmerman changes his story as it suits him.

Zimmerman appeared in court today for his bond hearing clean shaven and in a suit.  He was shackled at the waist and wrists.

He addressed this “apology” to Trayvon Martin’s parents.   I think the apology was a joke.  I am VERY glad his dingbat lawyers let him say it though because now there are more lies on record.  He claimed in the apology that he thought Trayvon was a couple years younger than him, but in the 911 call he clearly calls him a teenager and a kid at least 3 times.  Then the next lie he said he didn’t know if Trayvon was armed, but in his statement to the police, he said Trayvon was trying to go for Zimmerman’s gun and that’s why he shot him.  WHY…if Trayvon was armed…would he “go for” Zimmerman’s gun?

Some people have said they think that  Zimmerman’s apology was sincere.  Interesting.  I ask you…can an apology be sincere when it’s riddled with lies?

I certainly hope that these lawyers keep allowing this man to speak so America can see that if his lips are moving, he’s lying.  He changes his story more than most people change their clothes.

In my opinion, this “apology” was a huge present, gift wrapped and tied in a cute red bow for the prosecution.